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	<title>Comments on: Huckabee, Stewart Discuss Abortion on &#8216;Daily Show&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Stewart and Mike Huckabee talk about abortion &#171; UofT Students for Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Stewart and Mike Huckabee talk about abortion &#171; UofT Students for Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can find the American videos embedded on the AUL blog (don&#8217;t get me started on why these links have to be [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Stewart laid down the battle lines exactly right: &gt;Pro-Lifers believe this is about the intrinsic life of &gt;each individual, and Pro-Choicers believe this is a &gt;sovereignty question about women having control &gt;over their own reproductive systems.

Huckabee highlighted one of two important points surrounding the above comment &quot;Stewart laid down....&quot;. Huckabee pointed out quite rightly that there are two *persons* -- mother and baby -- each of equal value and, therefore, that the mother should not make decisions that have the impact of directly destroying the child&#039;s life. One person does not own the other. The second point is related to Huckabee&#039;s quote from the Declaration of Independence: &quot;....inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&quot;; however, Huckabee did not say it: The list of rights in the Declaration is an *ordered* list. One cannot pursue happiness without the liberty to do so. And one cannot have liberty without having life. The three liberties are not on the same plane. They form a hierarchy in which pursuing happiness rests upon liberty, which rests upon life. The most fundamental of the three is life, for without it, neither of the other two rights is even logically possible. Therefore, in answer to Stewart&#039;s query regarding the woman&#039;s sovereignty over her body, for two people (mother and child) of equal intrinsic value, the right to life must take precedence over the woman&#039;s liberty (sovereignty) over her own body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Stewart laid down the battle lines exactly right: &gt;Pro-Lifers believe this is about the intrinsic life of &gt;each individual, and Pro-Choicers believe this is a &gt;sovereignty question about women having control &gt;over their own reproductive systems.</p>
<p>Huckabee highlighted one of two important points surrounding the above comment &#8220;Stewart laid down&#8230;.&#8221;. Huckabee pointed out quite rightly that there are two *persons* &#8212; mother and baby &#8212; each of equal value and, therefore, that the mother should not make decisions that have the impact of directly destroying the child&#8217;s life. One person does not own the other. The second point is related to Huckabee&#8217;s quote from the Declaration of Independence: &#8220;&#8230;.inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness&#8221;; however, Huckabee did not say it: The list of rights in the Declaration is an *ordered* list. One cannot pursue happiness without the liberty to do so. And one cannot have liberty without having life. The three liberties are not on the same plane. They form a hierarchy in which pursuing happiness rests upon liberty, which rests upon life. The most fundamental of the three is life, for without it, neither of the other two rights is even logically possible. Therefore, in answer to Stewart&#8217;s query regarding the woman&#8217;s sovereignty over her body, for two people (mother and child) of equal intrinsic value, the right to life must take precedence over the woman&#8217;s liberty (sovereignty) over her own body.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Rene O'Riordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrs. Rene O'Riordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one little point; the little girl born as a result of in-vitro can no more be used as a thumbs up for in-vitro no more than a person born as a result of a rape. Thanks for this vid. - Blessings  - Rene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one little point; the little girl born as a result of in-vitro can no more be used as a thumbs up for in-vitro no more than a person born as a result of a rape. Thanks for this vid. &#8211; Blessings  &#8211; Rene</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A more succinct version of my above statement:

Stewart laid down the battle lines exactly right: Pro-Lifers believe this is about the intrinsic life of each individual, and Pro-Choicers believe this is a sovereignty question about women having control over their own reproductive systems. Abortion highlights how many women lack control over their reproductive systems where it counts: before getting pregnant.  To admit that fact necessitates coming to terms the realities of empty or destructive relationships (whether formal or informal) in which men also have tremendous culpability in the problem.  But women will defend abortion to defend an illusion of control, and men will defend abortion to avoid responsibility.

These are the larger pressures that the pro-life movement should be tackling in tandem with the legal and legislative angle. Some of those pressures are societal, and some of them are intensely personal. But as long as they are pervasive enough to cause a significant number of women to seek the illusion of control through abortion, they will cause an obstacle to a recognition of the integrity of life that will be tremendously difficult to prevail against through reasoned argument alone.

Hence, as always, the PRIMARY need for prayer in this effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A more succinct version of my above statement:</p>
<p>Stewart laid down the battle lines exactly right: Pro-Lifers believe this is about the intrinsic life of each individual, and Pro-Choicers believe this is a sovereignty question about women having control over their own reproductive systems. Abortion highlights how many women lack control over their reproductive systems where it counts: before getting pregnant.  To admit that fact necessitates coming to terms the realities of empty or destructive relationships (whether formal or informal) in which men also have tremendous culpability in the problem.  But women will defend abortion to defend an illusion of control, and men will defend abortion to avoid responsibility.</p>
<p>These are the larger pressures that the pro-life movement should be tackling in tandem with the legal and legislative angle. Some of those pressures are societal, and some of them are intensely personal. But as long as they are pervasive enough to cause a significant number of women to seek the illusion of control through abortion, they will cause an obstacle to a recognition of the integrity of life that will be tremendously difficult to prevail against through reasoned argument alone.</p>
<p>Hence, as always, the PRIMARY need for prayer in this effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Reflections of a Paralytic &#187; We Can Have a Civilized Discussion, at Least</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reflections of a Paralytic &#187; We Can Have a Civilized Discussion, at Least</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Compromise and negotiation is not possible when talking about a matter that is intrinsically evil. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that we can&#8217;t have a civilized discussion about it, at least. This was recently demonstrated on The Daily Show when host John Stewart welcomed Mike Huckabee last week for an extended discussion about abortion. After nearly 20 minutes of conversation it&#8217;s safe to say that nothing really got resolved, nothing ever does in these situations. If nothing else, it was at least more dignified approach to discussing something so divisive that hopefully encouraged those who witnessed it to think a little more deeply about the issue. (h/t AUL) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Compromise and negotiation is not possible when talking about a matter that is intrinsically evil. But that doesn&#8217;t mean that we can&#8217;t have a civilized discussion about it, at least. This was recently demonstrated on The Daily Show when host John Stewart welcomed Mike Huckabee last week for an extended discussion about abortion. After nearly 20 minutes of conversation it&#8217;s safe to say that nothing really got resolved, nothing ever does in these situations. If nothing else, it was at least more dignified approach to discussing something so divisive that hopefully encouraged those who witnessed it to think a little more deeply about the issue. (h/t AUL) [...]</p>
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